Lipstick on a pig?

[sup-rbeast]

That is retarded...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: centennialdawg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The news wires and pollsters are already saying that most of the white women voters who backed Hillary are voting republican now because of her. I would imagine that a lot more will because of her commitment to helping the handicapped and mentally disadvantaged. </div></div>

" mentally disadvantaged" ...So she is a Bush fan. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]

[CoeburnCane]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TheBeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've heard that one since I was 5 years old, now its an attack??
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On Fox this morning a bama supporter was talking about this and said that the term "lipstick" became hers the second she said it at the RNC like the term "community organizer" is bama's and using these terms is a direct refference to either of them.

So yes it is an attack now. </div></div>

So...one supporter of Obama sees it that way b/c they want to see it (much like those who are likely racists want to "call a spade a spade"), now it's an attack--not how Obama meant it to come across?

I'll repeat it in highlight form again so this doesn't stretch a whole another page...fodder/silliness/detract/real issues/no bearing on eleciton/waste of time.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TheBeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've heard that one since I was 5 years old, now its an attack??
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On Fox this morning a bama supporter was talking about this and said that the term "lipstick" became hers the second she said it at the RNC like the term "community organizer" is bama's and using these terms is a direct refference to either of them.

So yes it is an attack now. </div></div>

Standard Rep line isn't it? Next Obama will have WMDs stashed on the South Side of Chicago. Runnnnn ...they are gonna attttack us.

[TheBeast]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> That is retarded...
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Well it was one of your own(dem)that said it not a Rep so I guess being retarded is apt.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Standard Rep line isn't it? </div></div>

Where did you miss the part that it was a bama guy that said it not a Rep. Your getting as bad as retard13 to not read what is actually written.


To clarify it a bit, <span style='font-size: 14pt'>I did not say it, I was reporting what was said by a bama supporter and dem analyst on fox news,</span> not that it matters but he was a black man as well.

And you don't smell that rotten fish? You have to admit ,it is the standard line. Just ask King George. I didn't say anything about who said it. Just following the train of thought.

[sup-rbeast]

Not what was said, but the reasoning behind it being an attack is what I was referring to as being "retarded"...This morning on the Today show there were video clips of McCain using the same expression in a press interview 6-7 months ago...

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LEBANON, Va. -- Sen. Barack Obama talked about the barnyard tonight, but whether he intended an epithet was in the ear of the beholder.

"John McCain says he's about change, too," Obama said, leading into a string of ways he contends McCain represents more of the same -- economic policy, taxes, education, foreign policy, campaign tactics. "That's not change. That's just calling something that's the same thing something different.

"You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig," Obama went on, and the crowd erupted into shrieks, whoops and cheers. "You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper and call it change. It's still going to stink, after eight years. We've had enough of the same old thing."

Lipstick.

Pig.

Which candidate for national office has likened herself to a pit bull with lipstick?

That would be Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

Obama had barely finished when the Republican National Committee staged a conference call with former Massachusetts Gov. Jane Swift (R), who said in high dudgeon that Obama had made "disgusting comments, comparing our vice presidential nominee, Sarah Palin, to a pig."

Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs said he had done no such thing.

Reporters quickly unearthed evidence that Obama had said the same thing about Iraq policy, pointing to a reference the Illinois senator made last year: "George Bush has given a mission to General Petraeus, and he has done his best to try to figure out how to put lipstick on a pig."

Later, it turned out that McCain himself used the phrase more than once, including last year, when he was talking about Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's 1990s health care plan.

He said last October, "I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig."

Speaking about opponents of President Bush's Iraq strategy last year, McCain criticized their reasoning.

"It gets down to whether you support what is being done in this new strategy or you don't," McCain said. "You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig, in my view."

The phrase is a common one, so much so that Torie Clarke, the former Pentagon communications director in the Bush administration -- a Republican and a woman -- named her book "Lipstick on a Pig: Winning in a No-Spin Era by Someone Who Knows the Game."

That did not stop Swift from taking umbrage that Obama would use such wording, which she likened to the kind of language most often heard on a children's playground.

"Calling a very prominent female governor a pig is not what we want," Swift said, describing Obama's comments as "offensive."

When asked by a female reporter how she could be sure Obama was talking about Palin, she replied, "As far as I know, she's the only one of the presidential candidates or vice presidential candidates who wears lipstick. It seemed to me a very gendered comment. There's only one woman in the race. It's directly analogous to comments she has made."

The comment would be Palin's. Describing herself as a "hockey mom," she seemed proud of the image she painted when she said in her autobiographical speech to the Republican National Convention, "They say the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull: Lipstick."

Obama's lipstick line thrilled the crowd in a steamy high school gymnasium in rural southwest Virginia. A half-dozen supporters said afterward that Palin's own lipstick comment was not the first thought that came to mind, although a few said it was not out of the question that Obama was trying to make that connection.

"I didn't really take it that way. Probably should have," said Jeffrey Brown, a fervent Obama supporter from Belfast, Va., who describes himself as a Christian from the lower middle class. "Look, these campaigns are mean. We know that. Things get slung around."

JoAnn Vicars, a retired Bristol police employee, thought Obama's remark was great: "Loved it!" She and several friends scoffed at the idea that Obama was talking about Palin.

"That's the way we talk, buddy," Vicars said, in a raspy local accent.

Brown, in any event, figures on adding the lipstick line to his own political repertoire.

"I thought it was awesome," Brown said. "It's the truth, for one thing. I'm going to start using it right now as I campaign for him."

"Enough is enough," Obama adviser Anita Dunn said in a statement e-mailed to reporters at 9 p.m. "The Mc Cain campaign's attack tonight is a pathetic attempt to play the gender card about the use of a common analogy -- the same analogy that Senator McCain himself used about Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton's health care plan just last year."

Dunn said, "This phony lecture on gender sensitivity is the height of cynicism and lays bare the increasingly dishonorable campaign John McCain has chosen to run."

*Source--Washington Post*

[duckmeat]

this wasn't an attack on her, plain and simple. this is the type of underhanded campaign the reps. always run. a few months back, mccain said the exact same thing. they try to turn the attention away from the issues, and try to get the attention away from obama's message. these are just crocodile tears.

it really is a shame that this is getting that much coverage. we should be talking about "i said thanks, but no thanks on that bridge to nowhere", which palin has said six times in speeches. actually, she said yes before saying no. maybe we should be talking about how she charged per diem for sleeping in her own bed, how she tried to charge women for rape kits in a state with the highest rate of rape and incest, or how she has yet to speak to the press and keeps giving the same speech.

palin is a joke.

[imported_elp6n]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">how she tried to charge women for rape kits </div></div>
wow hadn't heard that one... have any details/articles?